where are the Christians when you need them?

I too would like to see the answers and thoughts of believers to this challenge. It’s a challenge issued long ago. The answers are always interesting.

Random thoughts

I think it’s a problem that people are considered immoral if they’re not religious. That’s just not true…. If you do something for a religious reason, you do it because you’ll be rewarded in an afterlife or in this world. That’s not quite as good as something you do for purely generous reasons.

LISA RANDALL, Discover Magazine, July 2006

It has been argued, often, by the religious that, one who does not believe as they do, in an invisible overlord, has not the capacity to act morally. Many a religious apologist have filled the internet with this type of banter. Many sheeples seem to believe this as true and often ask the atheist how or on what ground does he claim to act morally.

The atheist in her defense has pointed the theist to the Euthyphro Dilemma[pdf] in the slim hope that the theist may spend a few minutes of…

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  1. Lol, the idea that religion & morals are one and the same. Where are the morals of the Catholic priests who sodomize the alter boys? Or does “the invisible man in the sky” give them an exception?

    • The most famous top ten list ever does not tell adults to honor children… hmmmm

      • Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s ass…I’d say those pedo priests do more than covet

        • That depends on how you define covet. The clergy are, after all, charged with teaching children about the ways of YHWH. I’d say they were sticking to the charter in some respects even if their teaching methods are a bit over the top

          • And when did YHWH rape children? What kid needs to learn about anal sex?

            • If you step back a bit, god created humans broken, commands them to heal themselves, and built a torture chamber for them if they fail … damned from the start or in more colloquial terms “fucked”

              Do what I command no matter what I do to you and your life.

              • The whole thing makes no sense

                • Religion is one of those things that is like trying to rescue a 10 dollar bill from top of a cesspit. No matter how many times you try to recover the bill, all you manage to do is get covered in effluence and lose the bill in the mess.

                  • God sets us up to fail, shoves us in the shit, as it were, and says we have to get ourselves out, & yet every Sunday, churches are full of people singing “How great Thou art”. If I had a colleague who pushed me in shit, I wouldn’t sing about how great he was…I’d be goddamn mad.

                    • So it is that I think the pedo priests are just taking their lessons too seriously 🙂

                      There is little about what religion does to the world to be happy about.

                    • Very little about what religion does in the world to be happy about, if anything

  2. I would suggest you don’t need God to be moral. I would also suggest that there are many atheists who have better morals than Christians. I would also suggest that in the end there have been atrocities committed on both sides. Christians have murdered in the name of God in events like the Crusades, and there have been atheists who have killed and starved millions such as what Mao did in China. In the end we both have blood stained hands.

    • Would you also say that we need to worry about being good and forget about gods since they seem to have had zero positive effect so far?

  3. BTW…love reading your posts!

    • Thank you very much for the kind words.

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