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Here’s mud in the eye of every moderate monotheist. Yes, every last one of them.

The thing that I really don’t like about the Abrahamic faiths is this: They are dangerous and stupid ideologies. No, you cannot successfully argue with me that I am mistaken. They are as dangerous and stupid as Hitchens said they are and will only become more of both as time goes on. I hear so many people extol the parts of monotheism they think are good and all that I can see is a 15 pound pile of steaming horse shit with a small white flower growing from the middle of it. I hear your moderate voice trying to tell me that this pile of horse shit is good for people because it has beauty in it. No matter how elegant the knife is that you use to spread that on your bread, it’s still a shit sandwich.

Do you like your Belgian chocolates? Well, get ready for them to become very expensive. Look what is happening to Belgium.

The way things are going, each opportunity has Islam winning more ground from reason and critical thinking.

Islam needs some attention from atheist bloggers. I’m going to devote some time to it and not waste time worrying about rules at conferences and what does or does not constitute sexual harassment. No, I’m going to focus on real problems.

So, go on, tell me what your thoughts on Islam and atheism are, lets get this conversation started.

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    • Joe ‘Blondie’ Manco
    • July 5th, 2012

    I wonder what the Islamist foresees after Islam has been spread to every man, woman and child in every corner of the globe? Complete paradise and harmony among all people? I foresee the same power struggle and endless war just continuing between sects.

    Fuck it’s hard to stay optimistic when thinking about this topic.

    • I know it is very difficult to stay optimistic. This is why I’m going to focus a bit on the world instead of the US, and more on Muslims and Jews than Christians. The most depressing news comes from places that need the most attention.

      A single world religion will not resolve conflict but simply give everyone an excuse for being violent. Look at any country that has more than one sect of Muslims. It’s disgusting!

      Take heart, the more we talk now, perhaps the less the Islam disease will spread. It is my hope.

    • J_Agathokles
    • July 5th, 2012

    Well, being from Belgium myself, I think if the country survives another 2à years, it’ll be lucky. I foresee the country splitting up in it’s constituent parts; Flanders and Wallonia. What happens to Brussels itself or to the German-speaking community will remain to be seen.

    Concerning Shariah4Belgium, there has been talk about expressly forbidding the organization and prosecute it’s members. It’s leader has already been prosecuted several times, sometimes for hate speech, other times for things like theft (maybe we should cut his hand off and see if he still wants to impose šarīʿah on Belgium…)

    I also read an article somewhere that said that if Muslims keep acting the way they are now in Europe, there is going to be a huge backlash of ethnic violence against muslims in Europe somewhere in the next few years, possibly in 2013 already. I don’t know where I tea that anymore though so I can’t give a link. Perhaps Google can turn something up if you’re interested.

    • Thank you so much for stopping to share your insights. The violent backlash has already started in European countries. I look for more countries to ban Halal and Kosher slaughter. There will be killings and there will be problems of justifying it. The UN is not set up to stop sectarian violence. The answers must come from local communities…. and in this, there will be blood.

      Because of how Islam is written, its fascist ideals will not be quiet and must be bled out of communities, broken families, broken lives, and until the pain of loss and lost family drives people to change their ideals. See Rwanda for an example.

      When a town rises against itself, the victors will not prosecute themselves. They will quietly watch the setting sun and console themselves that the blood on their hands was necessary to preserve their way of life rather than surrender to tyrannical rule from outsiders.

      Look at any revolution…
      “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” — Thomas Jefferson

      http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/The_tree_of_liberty…%28Quotation%29

      I know that must be a horrific thought for you and your family. Try to imagine yourself saying exactly the opposite of Shariah4Belgium and with the same determination and vehemence. Now say it out loud. Say it to your friends. Say it to newspapers.

      I will not tolerate shariah. I will not tolerate those who support its fascist ideologies. I will kill all Muslims before I allow shariah to be law in MY country. Make sure your voice is the squeaky wheel that gets oiled, and not the voices of these fascist muslim whack jobs.

      Will that promote violence? Does it matter when being quiet only promotes violence from the Muslims?

      What do you think? Is that too harsh? Is it unrealistic?

        • J_Agathokles
        • July 6th, 2012

        Personally I don’t really care for Belgium, and more about Flanders. And I don’t think fundie muslims should go too much further or there will be a serious backlash against them. Luckily, most muslims in the country condemn Shariah4Belgium (and the whole Shariah4-network) and will have nothing to do with them.

        If any revolution is gonna come then it’ll be when the rotting corpse that is Belgium finally falls apart. Whether it’ll involve violence against muslims I can not say.

        • An interesting observation. Revolution generally comes as a reaction not an organized effort for change. The fall of Belgium would cause a reaction I hope. It is rather unfortunate that Egypt and other places have just had revolutions and are now controlled by Islam.

          It is control, not kindness that Islam wishes to bring the world.

    • J_Agathokles
    • July 5th, 2012

    This has nothing to do with Muslims in Belgium or even Europe, But I think Myatheislife that this blog may interest you: http://hinduexistence.wordpress.com/, they regularly post about confrontations between Muslims and Hindu’s.

    • Wow, okay. It does interest me. Thank you for the link and for commenting. I am indeed trying to learn more.

        • J_Agathokles
        • July 9th, 2012

        You’re welcome 😉

    • Minus the God
    • July 8th, 2012

    As Sam Harris states in “The End of Faith”, Islam has bloody borders. Muslim countries are always at war with their neighbors. Yet they call it a religion of peace. How does anyone believe this stuff?

    • This is one of the very few things on which I and Mr Harris agree. Despite America’s penchant for wars, Muslim countries and people are far more prolific at it. Islam is the religion of subjugation, not peace.

      Thanks for stopping by to comment.

      • J_Agathokles
      • July 9th, 2012

      The reason it is called a “religion of peace”, is because the verbal root *slm which we see in the terms Islām and Muslim indeed means something like “peace”, “wellbeing”, or “wholesomeness”. In the Muḥammadan definition of it this means “wholesomeness through the voluntary submission to God”. Obviously they still haven’t figured out the “voluntary” part of it…

      • Nor have they figured out there is no god to submit to, only men of greed and delusions of grandeur.

          • J_Agathokles
          • July 11th, 2012

          It would be far more healthy for all of them if they just returned to their native traditions, Arabian polytheism in Arabia, Phoenician/Canaanite polytheism in the Northern Levant, Punic polytheism in Tunisia and Algeria, Mesopotamian polytheism in Iraq, etc…

          • Monotheism has that habit, ridding the populace of all but their own ideologies. Destroy what is not like you, the mantra of monotheism. Let no other exists except they be a mirror of yourself. Sameness is sacred, compliance is breath, submission is virtue higher than all others.

            Global warming will change where and in what circumstance we human apes can live. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are much more dangerous for they will decide how we live, think, act, and worse, how we will live without all that makes us special… itself drowned in sameness and contrition to make believe friends.

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