This Is Why…

This is why you should, at best, find religion a doubtful set of myths and superstitions.

 

Ask yourself why your pastor or priest is not telling you these things. Ask why your religion does not explain about the universe other than to say your creator god did it. Why doesn’t your holy text cover black holes, nuclear energy, electricity, and so many other things in your daily life. For all you know, driving in a car could be one of many unforgivable sins but they didn’t cover that in the holy text so you won’t know.

Oh sure, these are different times, but why didn’t the most powerful and omniscient being in the world see fit to explain some of the stuff from the future so as to truly be a guide to his special friends? He could have given them some useful stuff, like forks or perhaps better sailing ships, or maybe even an accurate depiction of the solar system and it’s place in the galaxy. There are millions of ways that such a deity could have improved the lives of those special friends he supposedly put on this planet. Yet your deity did none of them. Why is your church not telling you about this? What happened when you asked? Post in the comments about what the reaction was from your church.

Why is it that your pastor or priest etc. will not show this video before their Sunday preaching? Why? You might as well ask why your pastor or priest etc. doesn’t want you to ask the questions and doesn’t want to answer them if you do.

I challenge believers to present this video to their church leaders and ask them what their response is. I’d be happy to post those responses here or have you post them in the comments.

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  1. Really? Cars, forks and sailing ships? This is your attempt to refute the existence of The Creator of the Universe?? Weak! Really, really weak!

    And, as to God not, “improving our lives,” you are just wrong. We have everything we need all around us. Every medicine that we have developed to improve our health, every food that we require to nourish our bodies, the elements we mine and combine to build everything we have built, and 99.999% of the knowledge we have acquired over the history of mankind have come from this very planet that we have been provided with. Yes, by God.

    Is it coincidence, too, that we alone – of all of the millions of species of life on this planet – are sentient and self-aware? According to science, ALL life started in some sort of hot, bubbling slime and grew from there into all that we now know. Well, what prevented TWO, OR MORE, species of intelligent life from developing at the same time then? Why is it that we are the ONLY inhabitants of Earth with brains capable of compound learning and exponential growth? Funny, but I have never seen a deer peering through a telescope at the cosmos, or a dolphin building a space ship. But they, supposedly, came from the same primordial soup we did. What about it?

    And, as for God not providing us with enough insight into astrophysics… He simply knew it was unnecessary. By the time we get out into the Universe we will, using the ability to reason that He gave us, be just fine on our own. He simply won’t need to intervene, and we won’t require a guide book.

    Faith in God has brought mankind from groveling for berries to avoid starvation to this pinnacle of technology and exploration we now enjoy. Don’t turn your back on Him now.

    • shangreene, Thank you for an Awesome reply. Let me see if I can do it justice.

      ==Really? Cars, forks and sailing ships? This is your attempt to refute the existence of The Creator of the Universe?? Weak! Really, really weak!==
      No, it is simply one point of thought. Refuting the existence of the supposed creator of the universe is as simple as asking for evidence.

      ==And, as to God not, “improving our lives,” you are just wrong. We have everything we need all around us.==
      How is that different from a natural world that happened all by itself? We’d still have all that we need on the planet we live. That we do find so much of what we need here on this planet is not any kind of evidence for a god, never mind your god.

      == Every medicine that we have developed to improve our health, every food that we require to nourish our bodies, the elements we mine and combine to build everything we have built, and 99.999% of the knowledge we have acquired over the history of mankind have come from this very planet…==
      This is still no different than if there were no god at all. It proves nothing but the ingenuity of human apes, and of course the good fortune to evolve with opposable thumbs.

      == …that we have been provided with. Yes, by God.==
      You’ll need to show evidence for this. So far you have not managed to do so. Extraordinary claims indeed. To back them up requires extraordinary evidence.

      ==Is it coincidence, too, that we alone – of all of the millions of species of life on this planet – are sentient and self-aware? ==
      What makes you think that we are and have always been alone? Can I mention Neanderthals here? How about proven empathy in other mammals? What exactly is it that makes you think we are alone?

      ==According to science, ALL life started in some sort of hot, bubbling slime and grew from there into all that we now know.==
      This is one theory of abiogenesis. It is not the only science based theory of origin. Apparently it is the only one that you’ve heard. A good place to start reading is to go to wikipedia and see what is written about the origin of life. I’m sure you’ll find it interesting if you can manage to read about it.

      == Well, what prevented TWO, OR MORE, species of intelligent life from developing at the same time then? Why is it that we are the ONLY inhabitants of Earth with brains capable of compound learning and exponential growth?==
      These terms are not well defined, and without better definition and can think of a dozen examples of why your statement is not even close enough to the truth to be called wrong. Again, let me mention Neanderthals – oh, right, you’re world view doesn’t believe humans have been around that long… right? So, science is just not going to work for you is it? Of course, I could be wrong here and if I am please let me know.

      == Funny, but I have never seen a deer peering through a telescope at the cosmos, or a dolphin building a space ship. But they, supposedly, came from the same primordial soup we did. What about it?==
      Funny .. cough, cough, Galileo, cough cough when Christianity was presented with a telescope it ruined their world view. Remember, we human apes have advanced to the point we are because we evolved opposable thumbs. This one little trick helped tremendously and put deer and dolphins in a different class of mammal. Of the apes, we humans developed a couple of other tricks that the rest did not. A single point of biological origin does not require that all life forms develop equally or even along the same direction as each species developed to survive in the environment they found themselves. Clearly, you should spend more time studying evolution. If you wish to argue against it you should at least know something about it more than you do now. The very little you seem to know currently makes you seem… well, uneducated.

      ==And, as for God not providing us with enough insight into astrophysics… He simply knew it was unnecessary.==
      Now you’ve gone and done it. You are telling us that you know the mind of your god and what he does or does not think is necessary. You’re going to have a very hard time explaining how you can know the mind of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent being. I’m waiting…. tell us how… go on

      == By the time we get out into the Universe we will, using the ability to reason that He gave us, be just fine on our own.==
      And how is this any different than if there were no gods ever to exist at all?

      == He simply won’t need to intervene, and we won’t require a guide book.==
      No gods intervene and we have not required a guide book, we have science, and we came up with that on our own. I was simply saying that if a god wanted us to know that he exists and is a god he had millions of opportunities to do so and messed up on all of them… utterly failing to show his existence except to those that already believe that he exists, which looks not one bit different than delusion or mental illness.

      ==Faith in God has brought mankind from groveling for berries to avoid starvation to this pinnacle of technology and exploration we now enjoy. Don’t turn your back on Him now.==
      I think that you have just insulted every human being who ever did anything to bring innovation to the world. The guy who invented the wheel – insulted. The guy who invented telescopes – insulted. The woman who invented rotary saws – insulted. By giving your god all the glory for all the good stuff it becomes necessary for me to ask you why you don’t also give him credit for the bad stuff. You know, like pain, misery, suffering, starvation, AIDS, black plague, Alzheimer’s, cancer, birth defects, still births, natural disasters, diseases, and so on. Can’t you give him credit for the holocaust, world wars, the Spanish inquisition etc? How about the crusades and the dark ages? What about Rome and its hungry lions?

      P.S. It is impossible to turn your back on someone who is everywhere at once and equally impossible to turn your back on someone who has never existed at all. In many respects such an attempt would look the same from any angle… futile and foolish.

      Thanks for the comment

      Note: had to go back and edit slightly, spell checkers can do odd things.

  2. Whew! Where do I even start…? How about by first thanking you for this rather intense debate. “Thank you.”

    Now, moving along, I would like to point out that you have made several assumptions – and you, I’m sure, are familiar with the anecdote regarding assumptions – about me and my beliefs. These would best be clarified if you were to take a brief tour of my blog, I just started it and there are only 10 posts, it won’t be too painful for you – I promise.

    From there it might help you to know that in the not too recent past I, too, was an atheist. These very same rants and ramblings used to spew forth from my mouth. And, yes, I’m well acquainted with numerous scientific theories – probably not ALL of them like you – of how we came to be.

    I would, however, suggest, no, insist, that neither Neanderthals – with the current theories regarding the limited size of their cranium and its inability to house a brain capable of truly complex thinking, nor empathy in animals equates to a capacity for advanced intelligence. And, the lack of thumbs doesn’t exclude every other creature on the planet from the potential to evolve the capacity for higher thinking.

    Allow me to suggest one further thing, instead of trading further quips designed for the sole purpose of impressing ourselves, let’s try something. I have checked out your blog so, what say, you check out my blog, and if there is anything left to be said there will be ample opportunity to do so. If not, let’s part amicably.

    And may God’s peace be upon you. (I just couldn’t resist)

    • Wow, all that and you have not made even an attempt to answer the questions I posed. I’m feeling certain that your blog won’t answer them either.

      First and foremost on my mind is the answer to how you can know the mind of your god, what he thinks is important and what he thinks is not important.

      For the benefit of those who follow my blog perhaps you will explain it here for us.

      • You remind me of a temperamental child who stands there with his fingers jammed into his ears screaming, “la, la, la, la” at the top of his lungs so that he doesn’t have to hear the loving wisdom of his mother – whom he fancies himself to be smarter than.

        I have never claimed to know the mind of God. In your rants and postulations you have, like many atheists, latched onto the most meaningless and trivial aspect of the conversation – my fallibility at turning the exact phrase – and are now attempting to use it as evidence against everything theistic. It shows your immaturity – glaringly.

        I’m sure that you believe yourself to be enlightened, sophisticated and open-minded – a real leader among men, if you will. But you are only a petty bully who is trying to make yourself seem big by making others seem small (reference the terminology you chose to use in the above posts.) You love to insult and categorize people – “those who are with me and those whom I must destroy” – its sad really, downright pathetic.

        I do have answers. I had every intent of proffering them when I started this reply. But, after writing the previous three paragraphs, I have realized that it is not answers you seek. You seek public esteem. You use this blog to glorify yourself. You beat your chest like a big ape proclaiming its alpha-male status and chase away all threats of challenge. But, deep down inside, you are a scared little boy.

        • ive been looking to say these same words for months now thanks for the excellent brilliant reply kudos to you my friend

        • shangreene
          Insulting type comparison to a child – noted.
          You did claim to know the mind of your god, let me remind you, you said:

          ==And, as for God not providing us with enough insight into astrophysics… He simply knew it was unnecessary.==

          How do you know this? This is neither trivial or meaningless. It’s a great con. First claim there is a man in the sky. Then claim that you know what he wants and doesn’t want. You’ve set yourself up as an authority that cannot be argued with. It helps when you prattle on about me being childish because I won’t simply accept that you know what god wants.

          Well, I’m not buying it.

          More insulting language. Noted. It’s not helping your argument. You even included a recursive insult where you do exactly as you accuse me of doing. That’s a nice touch. It does not further your argument or help your cause.

          If you had answers you could have shared them. Holding them as hostage for your perception of civilized argument sort of deflates the value of said answers.

          If you had hoped to drop by and enlighten, you have failed. You’re arguing with me and insulting me because I asked a question. An important question in my view.

          So? Do you have an answer?

    • Evolution Child
    • May 20th, 2012

    Excellent post, I respect your view point. It’s truly difficult to take any religious god myth seriously when there are JUST . SO. MANY! lol If there’s a creator out there, fine. But religion’s are just selling different brands of the same thing… in this case, manufactured belief. Total nonsense.

    • More difficult still when many of them claim the same miracles etc.
      Thanks for stopping by to comment. I’ll put you in the contest 🙂

        • Evolution Child
        • May 20th, 2012

        What contest?? *skips*

        • In the links section is a link to the Juneteenth contest post. Gasp, I’m giving away some books 🙂

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