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Some Questions For Everyone

I’ve seen posts of questions for atheists and posts of questions for theists. They are entertaining to a point and I think done with honesty but I don’t think that they actually look at the world in a way that makes progress. So I’ve thought about this for a while, and then some more. I thought it useless but then I thought of it a bit more… you get the idea.

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The gist of it is this, I have some questions and I thought perhaps sharing them here would profit me some new ideas. Hopefully, dear readers, you’ll be able to shed some light on these in the comments.

  1. If evolution is not true, why do mammals all share a common body plan – five digits, tube design, etc. Did the god run out of ideas or simply not have enough imagination to make more animals like the kangaroo and platypus.
  2. I’ll ask about the flood myth but this goes for a lot of things. Why do believers have to invent their own ‘bible science’ which is in contention with very smart people that spend their entire lives dedicated to the science of understanding geology?  Why is it necessary for believers to understand the world in terms of their holy book? Can’t they simply join the rest of humanity in the search for answers and learn from what is discovered?
  3. I have yet to hear a response to the Steve Project that makes sense. Does anyone have one?
  4. Speaking of monotheism, if the god created everything where does evil come from? No, don’t bother with free will for the angels chose to disobey and they were not given free will. Which leads us to number 5.
  5.  The god of Abraham has failed at the things he set out to do in spectacular fashion. On top of that, outside of natural disasters, every time he exacts punishment on humans it is done at the hands of other humans. How is this supportive of an omnipotent and omniscient god? Clearly all that foreknowledge has not helped the god of Abraham create anything that would succeed as far as we know. The god of Abraham is a failure… which leads us to number 6.
  6. There are those that believe in gods. They have failed to provide credible evidence for their belief. What do you believe and how do you KNOW it to be true? If you can’t know it to be true why do you believe it. Those that believe the big bang created the universe are encouraged to explain their answer to this question.
  7. It appears that the human like for sweet tasting things is biological. Where do you derive your morality from? Why? What evidence do you have to show this was a correct decision?
  8. There are those that believe in an afterlife. Their world views hold that many will be tortured forever. How do you justify this belief? How do you justify the infinite torture of someone else? For those that do not believe in an afterlife, how do you justify not helping those in need? Well, even believers, how do you justify not helping those in need?
  9. Have you thought your world view out to it’s logical end point? If you have, what is the meaning of existence? What purpose does this life serve? How do you reconcile your answer to this question with your answer to question 8?
  10. What is you most favored music genre?
  11.  How do you know that the world is real? How do you know that these questions are real? How do you know that your lover/spouse/SO is real? Given the answer to this question, how can you know if the Christian Jesus was real?
  12. Given the general nastiness of the gods of monotheism, why would you worship them? Why would you worship anything or anyone? What is worthy of your worship and dedication?

I’ll stop there. That’s enough for now. I look forward to the answers, both theological and not.

 

Where Are All The Dead Christians?

It’s that time of year again. Christian’s believe they are persecuted while they spend their money on themselves instead of helping the needy. Children are starving to death around the clock, but it’s important to them to argue that they are persecuted. War rages on several continents yet the supposed attack on their holiday is news worthy. I don’t think they actually know what their ‘christ’ tried to teach them. If they lived those lessons they’d be a much more tolerable bunch.

Yet, here we are, once again. People arguing for the defense of their deity. As a non-believer I’d simply like to see some credible evidence to show they have standing in this argument. That is, I’d like to see where they are harmed. Personal feelings do not count as standing. There must be evidence of harm.

The harm principle holds that the actions of individuals should only be limited to prevent harm to other individuals. John Stuart Mill articulated this principle in On Liberty, where he argued that, “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.”[1] An equivalent was earlier stated in France’s Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen of 1789 as, “Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything which injures no one else; hence the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights. These limits can only be determined by law.”

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The rightfully free expression of thought does not cause harm unless it can be shown that by promoting one line of thinking it does harm to individuals who do not hold this line of thinking to be true.

It is at this point we can postulate that Christians claiming harm by the supposed ‘war on Christmas’ is in fact harming other religions at this time of year. Any standing that they have holds true also for those of other religions and those of no religion. Deductively, we can reason that the supposed war on Christmas (religion) is nothing of the kind, in any sense. It is simply expression of thought which is not in agreement with Christianity. If this supposed war gives the Christians legal standing then they have legal standing anywhere a mosque or synagogue is erected. We can also reason that the supposed war on Christmas is nothing more than a ploy for theocracy that benefits Christians. This in turn is in violation of the Constitution. By this I reason that the very phrase ‘war on Christmas’ is both heretical and unconstitutional. It is self defeating in its arguments.

All of this is said without yet even defining the meaning of the word war: a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

Where are the dead Christians? If there is a war, can we go ahead and start killing them?

Morality Is Written On Our Hearts

“I will put My Law within them, and on their hearts will I write it; and I will be their God, and they will be My people” – Jeremiah 31:33-34
All human beings have an innate sense of right and wrong, an innate sense of the way they ought to behave. This sense is called the natural, moral law. It is God’s law of right vs. wrong literally written on our hearts, woven into the very fabric of who we are.
Despite all that, believers choose to follow their “good book” instead
’nuff said
MAL

What If There Is A God?

There are people that do not understand my position on belief. Perhaps it is time to explain it again.

Atheism simply defined is, “Someone who LACKS BELIEF in a god or gods.”  So as an atheist I would never claim to KNOW that there are no gods.  In this context atheism is nothing more than the rejection of the proposition, “a god or god’s exist.”  It is not the positive statement, “there is no god.”

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As an atheist I agree completely. I further posit that the probability of a god is zero. Further, if a god exists and that god is like the description of the god of Abraham that god is not worthy of my desire, accolades, or worship. If there is a god that exists as described by deists it does not care what words I use nor who I sleep with and how. If a god exists and judges me by moral means then it will judge me based on the morality I know rather than that offered in the offensive books of human made religions. If a god exists and has the fortitude to judge me at all, it can judge me by my morality and treatment of my fellow animals. If it indeed has the power of judgement, it can judge me on how I’ve treated others. If indeed there is a god who has any need or want to judge me, it can judge me as I have lived or it can do as it wishes but I will not worship it. For a being to acquire my worship requires what no god of human design or understanding can do. The YHWH-ists claim their god is omniscient yet that god has failed to meet the criteria I set forth. For those that think I am not permitted to set forth the criteria I am open to them showing me their god so that their god can explain to me personally what the rules are. I’m not saying I will accept any old god and his rules, but if there is argument about my understanding it will require the actual god to explain to me the differences. Without that there is no such thing as free will and I claim my right to free will now and always. Let some god who wants to be king explain any differences to me personally. I need no middle man arguments. Any god who would deem me unworthy of such effort is unworthy of my praise and worship and will likely garner my desire to kill it. If that is not clear enough for the theist, then I can use more words.

 

 

God Is A Nihilist

I’m talking here about the god of Abraham. It is not important what name we use as long as we know we’re talking about that god. He is various described but in all cases he gets this sort of description generally:

Omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, omni-benevolent. He is without peers, without family, without community, without predecessors. It is assumed that he existed prior to any existence we know of (a complete void) on his own, without guidance or interaction of any kind. He had nothing from which to form an opinion, he simply knows all things. That includes his purpose and meaning. Along with this he knew that creating existence to worship him would fail miserably but did it anyway. There can be no meaning and purpose in doing what you know will fail. To argue that it might have worked is not suitable – he would have  known how to make it work and done that instead of the things he has supposedly done to get us here.

Anyway, let’s look at what a nihilist might be:

NIHILSIM

1: the belief that traditional morals, ideas, beliefs, etc., have no worth or value
2: the belief that a society’s political and social institutions are so bad that they should be destroyed

3 a :  a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless

   b :  a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths
4 a :  a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility

 

1 – He did away with Jewish traditions, ideas, beliefs and so on, then changed again for t he Muslims – clearly he is down with this sentiment

2 – Oh man! How many of those has he destroyed? He’s got a penchant for it

3.a – See the opening paragraph. He has no traditional values and beliefs, just a priori knowledge and failed experiments in making little friends

3.b – Now we get to talk about murder and genocide. If there is objective morality, then if it is wrong for humans, it’s wrong for god. If morality is only what god wants, it is not objective… and that thought is pretty creepy.

4.a – For all we know, the god of Abraham has given up and killed himself already. He clearly is having trouble making the ideal existence, even his angels go off the ranch. He’s not a likable guy. He didn’t want to remain here on Earth and got himself killed as soon as he could blame it on his chosen people. According to most of his followers he is on a tear to find those worthy of  his presence before destroying everything else in existence.

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The god’s purpose for humans is to worship him. Not much meaning in that when you think about it. This god guy is a very lonely narcissist who has no meaning or purpose beyond himself and his own existence. He is a nihilist if ever there was one.

 

 

God Is Like Me … Well, He Wants To Be

Yeah, that’s a bold statement. Perhaps you’ll read on and hear me out

You see, god and I are a lot alike. I’m talking about the god of Abraham, the god of monotheism.

Other gods are a bit more imaginative than the god of Abraham. You see, because I do not know how the universe was formed I cannot know why I am here except to accept the words of others about their god or make up my own reasons. I can find no meaning in existing except what I can conjure up or copy from others. There is no morality but what I find palatable. The god of Abraham finds himself in exactly the same position if we are to believe what we are told by the religions of monotheism. Their god has always existed without predecessor, without community, without explanation. He cannot know morality except that which makes his own mind happy. How lonely he must be that he needed to create little friends on Earth. How childish he has been to have destroyed all life that did not openly worship him. How monstrous he has been to kill without care or remorse.

I too have no place to find meaning except what I personally ascribe to existence. I do not  know for what purpose this existence happens to be. I cannot find morality except that which helps me to survive and does not make me feel bad.

Rather unfortunately for the god of Abraham, he is not quite as good, gifted, nor fortunate as I. He is slated to be stuck in his existence for eternity, long after any of his creations will be around to worship him. He is unchanging and at the whim of some grand plan that he cannot alter except to destroy for he created failed life despite knowing it would not worship him. This he is unable to change as is evidenced by my atheism. He is said to be all powerful yet is powerless against words of doubt. I will die, you will die, the Earth will die, the universe will die. There will be the god of Abraham, alone again, unable to create what he most wants – or so it seems. He is powerless to change his condition. I am not. I can be happy without millions worshipping my every word. If they do not like me they need not live in fear for I am kind and just and have compassion – I will not kill them for the simple act of not liking me, yet the god of Abraham has no choice. His tyrannical fits were part of the grand plan, known to him before he set out to create friends to worship him.

I’m better than that. If the god of Abraham had a choice, he’d want to be more like me. When all is said and done at least I can kill myself and end the infinite boredom. The god of Abraham does not even have this option. He is powerless over the most basic events. He can’t even know why he exists except to make up a story. He is most likely deranged from the loneliness and responsibility. He seeks love but demands it of those he controls… ensuring that it never really happens. This is all part of his grand plan, one that he is powerless to change because he knew it would happen this way before he started.

I am better than such a god. If such a god exists… I pity it and want it destroyed in the same breath.

 

What the F is Egalitarianism

It is not an easy word to say, doesn’t roll off the tongue and does not appear in the daily 24 hour news cycle. So? What is it?

I always go to Merriam-Webster for definitions because I like them

1:  a belief in human equality especially with respect to social, political, and economic affairs
2:  a social philosophy advocating the removal of inequalities among people
This seems quite reasonable. So why is it so hard to achieve?
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I don’t want to cast aspersions where they are not warranted but I should point out that religion has been in charge for over 2000 years. Perhaps we should try this without religion?
Thoughts?
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